he didn't, to start with, and second of all, we didn't know until after the election that on "60 minutes" he said quote, on that same day, it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved. so he either didn't tell the american people the truth in that debate or he didn't tell "60 minutes" the truth. one of the two. >> let's cut to the quick on some of this, because you've gone after very hard ambassador rice. the u.n. ambassador. she has maintained a position of acting in good faith on cia intelligence briefings. that is what led her to say what she said on the morning television show on that sunday. >> i know this. on the same day when she was at all of these different sunday shows, sent out by the white house and with talking points from the white house, the show i was on, "face the nation," immediately after she gave her standard statement there, they -- bob schieffer had the president of the libyan national assembly on. he said this is al qaeda, it was an orchestrated attack. now, shouldn't that have gotten somebody's attention to say wait a minute, the lib